"k i find ali to be really !$#!#y and sometimes 2 faced. i don't know why people are making such a big fuss over vienna and y people hate her so !$#!#ing much, to me she didnt do anything wrong but be herself which is what i like.... although there might be some editing and some things that we arent seeing. Honestly i don't think either of them will get engaged to jake. Vienna is a little too much for jake and jake will also see the evil in ali a little bit later in the season."