In BuddyTV's 2007 Fall TV Guide, our team disagreed vehemently on the prospects of several new shows. Please read as they cheer, bash and degrade each other and the shows. Then you can decide what you think about
Viva Laughlin, and
Aliens in America.
BuddyTV writers Oscar Dahl and Debbie Chang agree on many things, but they disagree vehemently on Josh Schwartz's new teen soap Gossip Girl
. Based on a series of novels for young adults, Gossip Girl
delves into the glitzy haze that permeates the teen landscape of Manhattan's rich and famous. Debbie loves Gossip Girl
but Oscar does not. The two discussed their opinions of the show on instant messenger. Do you agree with Debbie that Gossip Girl
is going to be great, trashy fun? Or do you think that Oscar is right, that Gossip Girl
is the poor man's O.C.
? Read on to see whom you agree with.
I can't believe you didn't like Gossip Girl
! Are you nuts? It has EVERYTHING! Booze, floozies, hot chicks. Hot guys, if you're into that sort of thing.
I'm all for floozies and booze, generally, but it really did nothing for me. To be fair, I was going in with low expectations.
It's The O.C.
, but darker and more cynical.
My point exactly, it is like The O.C.,
but darker, more cynical, less funny, less fun, worse actors, worse music, and a worse location. There are no bikini possibilities. No beach fights. Drowning's not really an option. Other than that, they're the same.
You could always drown in the East River.
I loved The O.C.,
and it was mostly because it was legitimately funny. Adam Brody
and Rachel Bilson
were FUNNY. No one on Gossip Girl
, not yet at least, has shown any comedic potential.
Yes, but this is about angst. You were obviously never a teenage girl.
This is true.
Remember that scene when Nate (Blair's bf) says that he's not sure he wants to go to Dartmouth? And he's all, "don't you ever wish that everything weren't so planned out for you?" It's quintessential teenage angst, glammed up, that the young demographic will go nuts about. I'm including myself in this demographic. :P
I'm sure they will, and that quote is a worthy sentiment, one which I wish they'd spent more time exploring, and perhaps they will. But, I like my teen angst packaged with a little bit of fun, and without the pretension of the Upper East Side.
Two things I loved about The O.C.
: 1.) Everyone who was supposed to be uncool was actually super hot. 2.) There was a fancy party in every episode that ended in a fist fight. Gossip Girl
I disagree on the hotness (from a male perspective anyways). None of the girls on Gossip Girl
holds a candle to Mischa Barton
or Rachel Bilson. And, I think that's a legitimate concern.
Are you [redacted] kidding me??? Mischa Barton?? Girlfriend is only like 21, but she looks at least 45!
I think we're going to have to agree to disagree here. And, all the dudes have the same pasty-faced dourness that, I guess, some ladies find attractive
Sure, Rufus's (the poor kids' dad) eyebrows can't hold a candle to Peter Gallagher
's, but he ain't bad.
Exactly, my point is, I was expecting an insanely hot cast, and was underwhelmed. I long for the days of Peter Gallagher's eyebrows.
What have you got against the NY setting?
It's too depressing for me, especially for high school, which should be bright and cheery. If you're going to do an East Coast setting, rich kids with drugs, booze and whatnot, I want it all- out, which you can't do on TV. Give me Rules of Attraction
, give me Cruel Intentions
. I just think the premise is inherently flawed for TV, and it can't be realistic if it's geared toward teenage girls and is on network TV.
I think they were setting it up to be like Cruel Intentions.
I got that distinct vibe. Were you watching it at all?
I agree, but can they go all out? It also didn't have the humor necessary for that...going into a Josh Schwartz show, I expect to laugh.
OMG, and I cannot even tell you how excited i am that Kristen Bell is doing the voice of the gossip girl.
It's nice, and who doesn't like Kristen Bell? But the freaking abbreviations [Kristen Bell, as the narrator, abbreviates everyone's name, for instance "S&B" for Serena and Blair] are pissing me off.
I really can't handle it. It's so goddamn cutesy and condescending.
Yeah, I think it's supposed to be condescending. That's the whole point I guess we're at an impasse.
I'll give you this: the show has a glimmer of hope. It has good people involved behind the scenes, and with some improvement, it could be a winner. But, if future episodes follow the path of the pilot, you can count me out. However, a nation of teenage girls couldn't give less of a crap about what I think.
Read the other hilarious Writer Face-Offs: Viva Laughlin
, Samantha Who? and Aliens in America.
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