Sam and Dean Winchester have gone through quite a few shake ups already in Supernatural Season 12, especially with their mother’s return and the appearance of the British Men of Letters. BuddyTV visited Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki on location in a Vancouver church last week to get the scoop on what’s coming up.

Ackles and Padalecki spilled on Sam and Dean’s challenges with their mother, the Men of Letters and the possibility that Hitler could be brought back in tonight’s episode. Read on for excerpts from the interview.

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On Mary’s relationship with Dean and Sam

Ackles: There are certainly two different relationships going on from Sam’s perspective, and then from [Dean’s] perspective as well.  Because Sam never had a relationship with mom. He was an infant. And Dean didn’t have much of one either. A lot of what he knows and what he remembers about his mother was kind of dictated to him by his father. It’s more his father’s memories of her than it is Dean’s established memories of her.

But it’s unique because she’s their mother, but she’s also kind of a stranger. Obviously the brothers are strangers to her as well, which is why you see this struggle to find their footing in the relationship because it is a forced situation. And at least from Dean’s perspective, he doesn’t really know how to fit. He doesn’t know how to categorize the relationship. It’s an awkward thing, which I think lends itself to good story.

Padalecki:  It’s one of those situations where you’ve built up something so much in your head that there’s no way it’s gonna be able to fulfill all of these dreams, like “God, if mom was still around?” or “If we’d never started this life, what would it be like?” and you build these stories in your head of what it’s gonna be like, and inevitably and invariably, it’s not like that.

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On the British Men of Letters

Ackles: It’s interesting, we’re going to see that storyline get fleshed out in the second half of the season. There’s gonna be some recruitment attempts, some disagreements about methods of hunting, and that will certainly boil to a point. But as of right now, they are trying their method of trying to include us by showing that they have a superior method of dealing with these things than we do, and they’re trying to get us on board with that. But I think we’ll find out in the future that maybe their methods aren’t the best way.

Padalecki: For me it’s reminiscent of [Supernatural] Season 6 when Sam was soulless and kind of behaved much the same way the British Men of Letters are behaving now, or at least in their hunting tactics and Dean was obviously not, so it’s fun to revisit that. Would you kill two people to save three? Would you kill ten to save twelve? You’re still killing ten people. Would you try to find the middle ground? Would you try to find the grey area, not the black and white? It’s something I deal with in real life, so it’s fun to see it play out on screen or on paper.

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Padalecki: Yeah, so we find out that the Thule, who are back, we believe they may have been in control or in possession of a cursed object of sorts that might have a bit of Hitler’s soul. And they’re trying to a “Jurassic Park” and take the amber out of the tree sap and the mosquito DNA or whatever.

And so obviously we don’t know how it’s going and we have to kind of go back and track the Thule and figure out if, in fact, they have succeeded. Though Hitler’s vessel, thankfully, is gone, but it’s also….we know Hitler’s going to be in it, right? … It’s fun to see the Supernatural take on what Hitler was really like behind the camera.

Supernatural airs Thursdays at 9/8c on the CW.


Carla Day

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