AGREED!!!! Ven was one of my favorites going into the "real woman" challenge", and his attitude and comments made me sick! He did nothing but perpetuate the double standard that woman are "invalid" if they are not "model" thin, and beautiful....all along, men (Including VEN), can be overweight/fat, bald, grey, and with no sense of style, and still be deemed attractive. We have made no advancement in correcting this double standard, and women remain objectified and subjugated!! Wake up American girls and woman, fight for equality, as we are far from having it!