Survivor: Pearl Islands winner Sandra Diaz-Twine tends to speak in exclamation marks and bleeped out words. That makes her a riotously funny contestant to watch, and a very intimidating woman to talk with.
When I met up with her at the Survivor 10th Anniversary party she shouted a lot, and it wasn't just because there was a lot of background noise. She is a woman with intense opinions about every subject.
I asked Sandra about Pearl Islands castmates Rupert and Johnny Fairplay, working together with other villains, and what she's been doing since she won a million dollars.
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Sandra, can villains work together?
Villains can work together. You gotta put your problems behind you for the minute, you know. Then come back to whatever you were doing - whether it was fighting or getting along.
Are you a villain? I would have assumed you were a hero.
I would have thought I was a hero. But after listening to Jeff's explanation of why I'm a villain, I believe it.
So, you looked the other way when Rupert off in the Pearl Islands -
No! I didn't have nothing to do with Rupert going home! I never voted for him!
I'm not gonna beat you up.
Can a winner win a second time, or is there an anti-winner bias?
There's an anti-winner bias. But of all the winners there I was the nicest, so I didn't have anything to worry about for a couple of days.
So were you glad to see Johnny Fairplay wasn't out there?
Of course he wasn't out there!
He's a big villain.
So? He quit the second time around! He didn't make it the first time. Why would he make it the second? You know what I'm saying? He's a villain but he's no good for Survivor. He can't win.
What did you do between Pearl Islands and Heroes vs. Villains?
I moved to North Carolina. I bought my house. I work at the bank. My husband's in Afghanistan again. I vacation a lot. But I don't overdo it. I don't have a house that's so big I can't clean it by myself.
What do you want to see Survivor do in the future?
I want to see fans. I want to see regular people. I can't believe all these Hollywood people. I want to see people who watch the show, who know how to play the game. Let's see them go in there and execute.
-Interview conducted by Henry Jenkins
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